inspection

[mrkidyid]

Car not inspected as it needs a horn and signal lights, at the least. I saw a pic of the headlight switch that supposed to have a fuse inside for turn signals. I didn't see the fuse though. Is it actually inside the switch? Or do I need to just replace the whole thing for $22.00 online? Also how can I test horns to see if they work. Loose unattached wires everywhere.All wiring in my ride is f#@%ed.

 

[ponyboy289]

Hey,
I'm going to keep this short and sweet for starters or at least try? Anyhow. No horn and no signals..... Got it.First I have to ask why you are questioning the headlight switch. Pretend we know nothing about cars
1) When you turn the headlights on what happens?

2) when you have the key on(should blow regardless of key being on) and press the horn what happens? (I assume nothing)

3) Key on and signals are turned on? Nothing, or does one flash but not the other?Do they stay solid?

4) When you turn on the four way flashers? Anything?

Please answer these and we'll go from there. OK, Required reading(book to buy) A wiring diagram.Your car is a 68 ,I have a 68 one so I can follow along. Also if you don't already have you you will need a test light can be bought anywhere for $5-10.

A quick and easy test of your horns.Take a wire touch it to the horns wire connection point and the positive terminal of your battery or other 12 volt source. Hopefully your horn just blew,If not check the ground.You can also ground your test light,plug it into the wire to your horn,push the horn button and see what happens? Hopefully it lights up.For what it's worth the guy at the gas station only needs to hear a horn so if only one of the two works,don't point that out,it will pass and you can resolve it when we have 2 feet of snow on the ground. For what little it's worth I probably see a turn signal switch in your future.But I dont' want to jump the gun.

 

[mrkidyid]

Book says theres a fuse in headlight switch that is for the signals.
1-headlights stay on-both work
2-key on--no horn no blowing
3-key on left flashes once then nothing...right doesn't flash at all(just changed front signal socket)
4-flashers do work--yeah

Wiring diagram will be ordered today
Is test light the same one I use for outlets in the house? 2 prongs and a light?
As per the horn----there is no button. I will have to buy a new steering wheel w/ horn inside. So the horn should work if I attach 1 wire from horn to + battery? Isn't a circuit w/2 wires. Is the wiring diagram book that I will order confusing?

 

[ponyboy289]

The headlight switches do have a built circuit breaker,but it has nothing to do with turn signal function,at least not the issues you are having. So all lights work when turned on,including tailights? How about the brake lights?

Horns are sort of simple they have one wire going into them it is hot. They ground on the engine compartment so if you put power to one,it should honk so long as it has a good clean ground.

I follow the signals don't flash. Do they light and stay lit if you leave the signal on?

Flashers work,ok that tells you your lights are in order.Leading me towards the turnsignal switch(common) or it could be wiring/connections.

Wiring diagram if you get the right one it's relatively easy to follow for a wiring diagram.It shows you generally where the wires goes,gives you color codes,etc. So it helps you trace ,etc. test light no,this is an automotive one.It has one wire that hooks to ground,with a point and a light bulb in the handle when it touchs a live wire the bulb lights, you can get these at any autoparts store for $5-20. Very handy,reading your posts you need one. I probably own a half a dozen of them.

No horn button? Please explain. What steering wheel do you have? (picture?) What are you looking to buy? This I ask,it's none of my business but in my opinion a good chunk(not all) of the aftermarket wheels leave alot to be desired and alot of them have Horn button issues. In my garage aftermarket wheels fly into the garbage pail as fast as I can get them off.LOL .For the record I have been called a purist by some,what can I say I think Ford did an ok job setting these cars up,for the most part.

 

[mrkidyid]

I think I am def. over my head w/ the lighting situation. If horns are easy and I still don't get it..I think I should just bring into shop. I will get back to you tomorrow w/what exactly works though. I'm not a diagram reader. For me to look at horn wires- I will rip everything out and start from scratch. Probally wasting my time.


Horn-----1st wire------battery? ----- Do they make diagrams that look this?
-----2nd wire------ground?



theres like 5 wires going into this thing w/ one wire going to a button that goes under dash that I ripped out. I guess I'll be driving it uninspected for a long while.

 

[ponyboy289]

Regarding taking the car to a shop,every man has to know their limitations right? Advice when paying pros,do your research and make sure you're bringing the car to a reputable shop.This I see all of the time, I see people pay some $100 to repair a harness that cost $30 new and takes 5 minutes to change.When paying $80-$100 per hour to diagnose,repair, or rewire a car.The fees add up quickly.
As far as the horns My suggestion was to open your hood,look on the front of the compartment,look at the horn,They are sealed nonserviceable parts.They have one electrical connection,my suggestion was to run power to that to see if it beeped to see if your actual horns worked.

 

[mrkidyid]

I will check out horn tomorrow. I did find a guy near me who just restored a 67 mustang from a shell. He gave me a price of $75.00 per hr. Wiring harness not more than 4 hrs. He was trying to convince me to do myself. So he's not after the $$$. Let me ask you, The no pain easy harness I attached last message, said it included regular circuit breakers(blade type). So I'm guessing when I redo the harness, It will have me change the glass fuses to modern ones. Am I right in that assumption wiring guru.

 

[ponyboy289]

Hey Paul,
I appreciate the compliment,Wiring isn't actually all that bad if you have time,patience,a wiring diagram, and a test light. As far as the painless wiring I do believe it does use newer fuses.As I said though I can't give you any further advice on them,as they really aren't my thing. I try to stay with the original copy stuff,I believe with the painless you have to cut and drill new holes for some of the stuff or so I've heard?I'd go with whatever your installer is more comfortable and experienced with.

 

[mrkidyid]

I got the test light. After I pull off rusty old carb and put in new one, I'll check out the test light. I don't mind drilling new holes for new wiring kit. I had to drill new holes to put oversized radiator. At least we'll have two point of views on this forum if I go the painless route on wiring.